Legislature(1997 - 1998)

05/06/1997 04:50 PM Senate STA

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         SJR 28 FED AUDIT OF NATIVE REGIONAL CORPORATIONS                      
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN called the Senate State Affairs Committee to order             
 at 4:50 p.m. and brought up SJR 28 as the first order of business             
 before the committee.  She stated SB 194 (ANCSA CORPORATIONS),                
 which is also sponsored by Senator Halford, would be rescheduled to           
 the May 8 meeting, and that copies of a letter from Sealaska                  
 Corporation relating to that piece of legislation would be                    
 distributed to committee members.                                             
                                                                               
 BOB LOESCHER, Executive Vice President, Sealaska Corporation,                 
 stated that since incorporation Sealaska and the other regional               
 corporation have been audited annually by independent certified               
 public accountants, which is required by federal law.  Sealaska's             
 accounting firm, Price Waterhouse, holds the corporation to the               
 standards of generally accepted accounting principles.  Reports of            
 these audits are sent to every shareholder of the corporation, and            
 these reports are published in an understandable, user-friendly               
 format.  The coporation's audited financial statements and reports            
 to shareholders are filed with the State of Alaska.                           
                                                                               
 Mr. Loescher said because there is already plenty of auditing and             
 accountability to shareholders and government agencies, it is                 
 apparent to Sealaska that the purpose of SJR 28 is to create                  
 discord among Native groups whose views differ on issues of                   
 corporate direction and management, to retaliate against Alaska               
 Natives over the Indian Country issue, and to discredit Alaska                
 Natives and rural residents in advance of public policy                       
 consideration of the subsistence issue pending before the                     
 Legislature.  Sealaska suggests that these are neither necessary              
 nor proper purposes for legislative involvement.  Sealaska also               
 suggests that the regional corporations are the wrong target since            
 they too may be affected by the Venetie decision.                             
                                                                               
 Mr. Loescher said the sponsors of this legislation are not willing            
 to fund an audit at the state level and the U.S. Congress is even             
 less likely to fund an audit.  He added that none of Alaska's                 
 Republican congressional delegates support SJR 28, and that Deborah           
 Williams, who is the special assistant to the U.S. Secretary of the           
 Interior, recently stated that the federal government lacks the               
 authority to audit Native corporations.                                       
                                                                               
 Mr. Loescher noted that much of the testimony on SJR 28 has been by           
 shareholders who say that the corporations do not do enough for               
 them.  He then outlined the following benefits that have been                 
 provided to Sealaska shareholders throughout the years:                       
                                                                               
      - An at-large or urban Sealaska shareholder with 100 shares              
 has received $17,663 in dividends and other distributions since               
 1972.  Shareholders with village corporation shares receive a                 
 portion of this through their village.  Sealaska has approximately            
 15,700 shareholders, which totals over $277 million being injected            
 into the economy.                                                             
                                                                               
      - The Alaska Native Claims Settlement Act requires Native                
 corporations to share revenues from natural resources from their              
 land, and from the start of ANCSA to March 31, 1997, Sealaska has             
 paid out approximately $162 million to other corporations.  These             
 funds were in turn distributed directly to shareholders and village           
 corporations throughout the state.                                            
                                                                               
      - In 1991 a vote by shareholders approved a special one-time             
 benefit payments when he or she reaches age 65.  Since then over              
 1,900 elders have received payments totaling $4.4 million.                    
                                                                               
      - Educational support has been a vital part of Sealaska's                
 programs for about 1,500 shareholders and their descendants since             
 1981.  Last year 403 young people received awards totaling                    
 $422,000.                                                                     
                                                                               
      - Additionally, Sealaska has a jobs program which provides               
 jobs to over 400 people, an internship program that has provided              
 over 120 internships, cultural programs, historic sites and                   
 cemetery programs, etc.                                                       
                                                                               
 In closing, Mr. Loescher said Sealaska is proud of its role in                
 providing jobs, dividends and other benefits to its shareholders,             
 as well as its contribution to the economy of Alaska.                         
                                                                               
 Number 145                                                                    
                                                                               
 AMY GAMBELL, Audit Manager, Seattle Office of Price Waterhouse,               
 said Price Waterhouse is the independent accountants of Sealaska              
 Corporation and since 1982 have been performing annual audits of              
 the corporation's financial statements.  The firm's reports are               
 addressed to the corporation's shareholders and published by                  
 Sealaska in their annual report, which is distributed to all                  
 shareholders every year.  This audit process is closely monitored             
 by the audit committee of the Board of Directors.                             
                                                                               
 Ms. Gambell said Sealaska Corporation prepares their financial                
 statements following generally accepted accounting principles,                
 including full disclosure for all sources and uses of money and               
 disclosure to explain the financial statements and to describe any            
 important matters such as litigations or claims against the                   
 company.  In addition, Sealaska has recently submitted their proxy            
 statements and financial statements for voluntary review by the               
 Securities and Exchange Commission who has commended Sealaska on              
 the readability of these statements and are using them as an                  
 example for other public companies.                                           
                                                                               
 Price Waterhouse's report on the financial statements contains no             
 exceptions or qualifications.  If they noted any material                     
 noncompliance that was not corrected, they would explain it in                
 their audit report as an exception or a qualification.  Also, if              
 Price Waterhouse was to become aware of any material impropriety by           
 management not resolved by the directors to their satisfaction,               
 they would no longer be able to continue their association with               
 Sealaska.                                                                     
                                                                               
 Ms. Gambell said SJR 28 asks the federal government to audit                  
 Sealaska and implies that they lack accountability to their                   
 shareholders; however, Sealaska is audited by an independent                  
 company and they are financially accountable.                                 
                                                                               
 Number 195                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MACKIE stated for the record that he is a Sealaska                    
 shareholder and a Shan S'eet Shareholder.  He then asked Mr.                  
 Loescher what Sealaska is doing to improve communications with                
 shareholders, to share information with them so that they don't               
 feel like they are being shut out of the process and to reduce the            
 animosity felt by many of them.                                               
                                                                               
 In response to Senator Mackie's questions, MR. LOESCHER said from             
 time to time Sealaska receives petitions for recall on board                  
 members and they are responsive to them.  He also related Sealaska            
 has a shareholder newspaper that is published approximately every             
 six weeks that goes out to all shareholders in which they discuss             
 the corporate affairs and corporate actions that go on within the             
 corporation.  Also, the corporation's annual report and proxy                 
 statement is sent out to every shareholder every year.  In                    
 addition, shareholders may go the Sealaska offices and review the             
 books and records of the company at any time.  Sealaska also                  
 provides a toll free line and a Website.                                      
                                                                               
 Number 245                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MACKIE asked Mr. Loescher if the federal government were to           
 decide to do an audit, was their anything in his view that would be           
 contained in such an audit that Sealaska would be criticized for              
 not providing to its shareholders.  MR. LOESCHER responded that               
 there was not.                                                                
                                                                               
 Number 245                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR WARD asked Mr. Loescher if he would explain the                       
 discretionary voting process used by the corporation.  MR. LOESCHER           
 explained that every year Sealaska puts out a proxy and there is a            
 slate of candidates.  A shareholder can vote on the proxy form                
 only, or a directed vote, or a discretionary vote.  If a                      
 shareholder signs the box for a discretionary vote, that empowers             
 the committee of the board to cast the ballot on behalf of the                
 shareholder in a manner that they see fit.  This process is allowed           
 under state law, and sometimes over 50 percent of the shareholders            
 elect to use the discretionary voting box.  SENATOR WARD commented            
 that the committee has received testimony from hundreds of people             
 that think this is an inherently unfair and quite anti-Indian                 
 process.  MR. LOESCHER responded that it is a matter for policy               
 makers to determine whether or not that law should be continued,              
 but the law is there and their shareholders have elected to use               
 that provision of law.                                                        
                                                                               
 Number 295                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR WARD inquired if every board member gets full retirement              
 after serving on the board for five years.  MR. LOESCHER                      
 acknowledged there is a retirement program for directors, but he              
 was not familiar with its provisions.  He also acknowledged that he           
 didn't think that program was approved by the shareholders.                   
                                                                               
 SENATOR WARD asked Mr. Loescher if had a running tally of how much            
 money he and other officials of the corporation have been paid                
 since December 18, 1971.  MR. LOESCHER replied that he didn't have            
 that information with him, but the data could be provided to the              
 committee if necessary.                                                       
                                                                               
 Number 323                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN stated testimony would be taken over the                       
 teleconference network from witnesses waiting to testify on SJR 28.           
                                                                               
 BARBARA DONATELLI, Vice President of Administration for Cook Inlet            
 Region Incorporated (CIRI), testifying from Anchorage, voiced                 
 CIRI's opposition to SJR 28, not because CIRI is in any way                   
 concerned about the end results of the audit process called for in            
 the measure, but because of the disturbing implications presented             
 and the messages sent by it.  CIRI has nothing to hide from its               
 shareholders or from state or federal auditors.  CIRI, like all the           
 Native regional corporations, is audited annually by an independent           
 accounting firm.                                                              
                                                                               
 Ms. Donatelli said regional corporations, in general, and CIRI, in            
 particular, have not failed the Native people of Alaska.  She noted           
 that in 1972 CIRI received $34 million and the right to select                
 certain lands.  Today CIRI's total shareholder equity is excess of            
 $492 million in addition to the value of CIRI's ANCSA land.  CIRI's           
 net income last year was $39.8 million, and for the last five years           
 alone cumulative net income for the company exceeded $150 million.            
 Additionally, during its 25 years of existence, CIRI has paid out             
 a cumulative amount of approximately $240 million to its                      
 shareholders.                                                                 
                                                                               
 CIRI has also been one of the leading contributors in sharing of              
 resource revenues with all other regional corporations.  CIRI's               
 sharing of $161 million in resource revenues over the past 25 years           
 has made CIRI a driving force for economic return and growth, not             
 only for its own shareholders, but for Native shareholders                    
 statewide.                                                                    
                                                                               
 CIRI has contributed millions of dollars to nonprofit corporations            
 that are dedicated to furthering economic, educational and health             
 care and other benefits to CIRI shareholders and Alaska Natives.              
 In the last three years alone, CIRI has donated $7.9 million to               
 these important nonprofit organizations.                                      
                                                                               
 Ms. Donatelli said the regional corporations do not lack                      
 responsiveness or accountability to their shareholders.  CIRI is              
 the first regional corporation to put directly before the                     
 shareholders the chance to choose by ballot amongst four different            
 options for the future direction of the corporation.  CIRI's                  
 philosophy and goal in this process is to enhance and extend                  
 shareholder participation in the fundamental direction of the                 
 corporation.                                                                  
                                                                               
 Additionally, ANCSA provides itself with the ultimate mechanism for           
 Native shareholders to express dissatisfaction or assert control              
 over the corporation with the democratic election of corporate                
 boards.  Ms. Donatelli said contrary to the resolution's suggestion           
 of widespread dissatisfaction and disenfranchisement among                    
 shareholders, CIRI shareholders have repeatedly returned CIRI's               
 board members to the board thereby expressing their continued                 
 confidence in the board.  Notwithstanding this, CIRI allows                   
 minority voice representation on the board.  CIRI's bylaws provide            
 for cumulative voting for directors, whereby shareholders with less           
 than a majority of votes can still beat directors.  Ironically,               
 this system allows dissident candidates to win seats with only                
 about 15 percent of the vote.                                                 
                                                                               
 In her closing remarks, Ms. Donatelli said the dissatisfaction with           
 the regional corporations did not bring about an outcry by Native             
 people of Alaska for sovereignty.  She said the sovereignty                   
 movement in Alaska is not a recent development, and that it has               
 been fueled by governmental failures in areas such as subsistence,            
 social welfare programs and drug and alcohol enforcement rather               
 than by objections to the management of regional corporations.                
                                                                               
 Number 395                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR WARD asked Ms. Donatelli how much land CIRI received in its           
 original entitlement, how much of that land is left and the book              
 value of that land.  MS. DONATELLI answered that she did not have             
 that information with her, but she advised that it was available              
 and she would forward it to the committee.                                    
                                                                               
 Number 400                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN noted that Mark Kroluff, who was also representing             
 CIRI, was present in Anchorage to respond to questions.                       
                                                                               
 Number 410                                                                    
                                                                               
 DAVID MCCAMBRIDGE, an audit partner with KPMG Peat Marwick in                 
 Anchorage, stated KPMG currently audits six of the twelve regional            
 corporations, provides other professional services to two other               
 regional corporations, as well as auditing a number of Alaska                 
 Native village corporations.                                                  
                                                                               
 Mr. McCambridge related the audits performed by his company are               
 financial statement audits and are performed annually.  These                 
 audits result in their giving an opinion as to whether the Native             
 corporations' financial practices follow generally accepted                   
 accounting principles.  The audit standards require, among other              
 things, that the accountant be independent of the corporation that            
 the audit is being performed on, that an opinion be rendered as to            
 the financial statements and whether or not they are presented in             
 accordance with generally accepted accounting principles and that             
 those financial provide adequate and full disclosure as required by           
 generally accepted accounting principles.  He said his company                
 believes that the proposed governmental audits may be a duplication           
 of the existing efforts and expense.                                          
                                                                               
 Number 435                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR WARD asked Mr. McCambridge is he had information on how               
 much land was given to CIRI under ANCSA, how much acreage is left             
 and what the book value of that acreage is today.  MR. MCCAMBRIDGE            
 responded that he did not have that information with him, and he              
 added that most of it is included in CIRI's annual report.                    
                                                                               
 Number 444                                                                    
                                                                               
 WALTER JOHNS, a Tlingit Indian testifying in Juneau against SJR 28,           
 stated he is a shareholder of both Sealaska Corporation and                   
 Goldbelt Corporation.  He noted there are currently several other             
 pieces of legislation before the Legislature that are all anti-               
 Indian.  He contended that if this type of legislation, which he              
 considers racist, were introduced in other states with Indian                 
 populations they could create war.                                            
                                                                               
 Mr. Johns said he said he believes the people of the corporations             
 can handle problems that have arisen, and he is strongly opposed to           
 state involvement in these corporations.                                      
                                                                               
 In closing, Mr. Johns stated he is strongly opposed to SB 195 as              
 well.                                                                         
                                                                               
 Number 490                                                                    
                                                                               
 BUNNY MERCER a Sealaska and Goldbelt shareholder residing in                  
 Juneau, read her written testimony in support of SJR 28 into the              
 record.  She noted that since Sealaska's inception they have had              
 the same board of directors, and she spoke to the need to get rid             
 of the discretionary vote.  She believes a federal audit will                 
 settle questions about what all previous shareholders are saying              
 and what the opposition is saying.                                            
                                                                               
 Number 525                                                                    
                                                                               
 SANDRA STUERMER, the treasurer of the Arctic Slope Regional                   
 Corporation (ASRC) testifying from Barrow, voiced the corporation's           
 strong opposition to SJR 28.  They believe that the process would             
 not be positive for the state or to their shareholders.  ASRC has             
 been audited each year since its inception, and any inconsistencies           
 or shortcomings in the financial records of the company are noted             
 in an audit opinion.  The annual audit is also monitored by a                 
 committee of ASRC's board of directors who are not employees of the           
 corporation.  The audited financial presentation is given each year           
 and approved overwhelmingly by the shareholders at their annual               
 shareholder meeting.                                                          
                                                                               
 Mr. Stuermer said ASRC believes the audit called for in SJR 28                
 would be a total waste of time and resources.  She said none of the           
 land and money received by ASRC as part of ANCSA has been lost, a             
 fact demonstrated by their annual audit every year for 25 years.              
 It is that land and other resources that can serve as foundations             
 for further economic growth and development.  Like many other                 
 regional corporations, ASRC is more than just a for profit-making             
 entity.  ANCSA corporations are not social service agencies,                  
 however ASRC does more in that respect for it shareholders than               
 other corporations in the state.  It was also noted that over the             
 years ASRC has paid more than $92 million in dividends to its                 
 shareholders.                                                                 
                                                                               
 Ms. Stuermer reiterated ASRC's strong opposition to SJR 28, which             
 they believe is designed to create divisiveness within the Native             
 community.                                                                    
                                                                               
 Number 555                                                                    
                                                                               
 SENATOR MACKIE asked if ASRC shareholders have access to financial            
 information on salaries paid to the corporation's directors and               
 executives.  MS. STUERMER responded that they do not deny specific            
 requests on such information, that they have an open door policy,             
 and that their financial statements are available every month at              
 the time of closing.                                                          
                                                                               
 SENATOR MACKIE asked if 10 percent of ASRC shareholders were                  
 dissatisfied with the decisions that are being made by its board,             
 could they petition for a recall election to remove their entire              
 board.  MS. STUERMER acknowledged that they could, but ASRC has not           
 had any such action taken against the corporation.                            
                                                                               
 Number 575                                                                    
                                                                               
 BUTCH FONDAHN, a member of the Tatitlek Village Corporation                   
 testifying from the Mat-Su LIO, voiced his support for federal                
 audits of Native corporations because it will make them more                  
 accountable to shareholders.  He suggested the resolution should              
 include the auditing of village corporations as well.  The Tatitlek           
 Village  Corporation is going to receive approximately $37 million            
 in oil spill oil money, and he fears that the money will disappear            
 because their board of directors has a poor track record on its               
 prior investments.                                                            
                                                                               
 TAPE 97-26, SIDE B                                                            
 Number 015                                                                    
                                                                               
 JAMES KNUDSON, a Sealaska and Goldbelt shareholder testifying in              
 Juneau in support of SJR 28, stated it was his first time speaking            
 out on this issue.  In the past he sat back and listened to                   
 promises made by future board members that they would make Sealaska           
 and Goldbelt more open to its shareholders.  However, once these              
 people are elected, the only thing that changes is their views, not           
 the policies of the corporations.                                             
                                                                               
 Number 030                                                                    
                                                                               
 CHAIRMAN GREEN closed the public hearing on SJR 28 because members            
 had to return to the Senate floor session.  She then adjourned the            
 meeting at 5:40 p.m.                                                          

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